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$C isn't that bad. You critics make me sick.

Glen Bradford
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Well, they turned out a profit because they were able to sell their assets. They are building a larger reserve for future losses. My initial investing hypothesis included the willingness to hold and just sit on the stocks for a couple years.

There are a lot of people out there claiming that they understand what’s going on. I’m not that type of person. If I had to guess on this one, lets see.

Their shareholder equity is 154B and their market cap is 20B (Assume 25% dilution, cause I just feel like it right now).

K, let’s assume that citi is going to lose $10B each quarter for the next 8 quarters before turning profitable again (mid 2012). Remember, critics are complaining of a $5B loss.

Your upside to book value with these rough estimates is 200% return. So, is this a good value? Probably.

But, what the heck do I know. Disclosure: I think I'm long citi call options. Not sure. I bought a bunch of bank just out of the money call options back in late march. Needless to say, I should have just margined the heck out of my account. Options are also a function of volatility, and back then I paid a premium.

Glen

From: Scott Stefani Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:06 PM To: Bradford, Glen Richard Subject: Thoughts on Citi

Hi Glen:

Hope you had a great weekend. I'm curious what your thoughts are for Citi's future. You had recommended Citi a while back with your "mark-to-profit" write-up on CAPs and I'm curious where you stand after their 2nd Quarter results (which sounded pretty good to me, outside of their Retail Banking and Credit & Mortgage Losses).

I have about 5% of my money invested in Citi currently, and I'm wondering if I should lessen my exposure, since it's future seems a little cloudy, and instead use that money to get more of your China Uplisting recommendations. I'd appreciate any advice you might be able to share. Thank you Glen.

Scott

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MBA from Purdue. Former hedge fund manager. Holds 26 series of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac junior preferred stock. Built Cloud Nimbus for Salesforce consulting. Author of Act As If. Writes about investing, building things, and the longest financial fraud in American history.

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